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Reviewer: MollyandArthur Signed Date: 2015.12.27 - 02:53PM Title: Chapter 2 – Front Page News

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Luna and Ginny are great for Harry in this chapter, and I like the way the twins help them get back at Draco. Too funny!

Author's Response: I always wished we saw more of Luna and Ginny together in the books. I always imagine they make a great team.



Reviewer: Gin110881 Signed Date: 2015.02.13 - 08:02AM Title: Chapter 2 – Front Page News

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The story remains interesting and I'm still excited to have a Ginny POV.
I like stories where Harry and Ginny build a trusting relationship and face their challenges together. It seems to me that they still have a long way to go. But I trust them...

... and maybe I'm allowed to leave my 5 knots regarding the question discussed in the review of this chapter: Did JKR intend Ginny to end up as Mrs Potter in the end right from the start? The answer ist a clear YES. Remember, Harry has not been the first choosen one in Merlins world of wizzards and witches. There has been a choosen one before, the one who was able to retrieve the legendary sword. JKR has always been very foresighted when choosing the names of her characters. Guess the name of the wife of that chosen one! Right, it was Guinevere. Mere chance? I think no.

OK, that leaves the question why JKR ditched Ginny so badly at the end of her saga? I suspect it was the influence of Warner Bros. They refused to have a love story in the plot line of the DH movies.

Author's Response: Of course, Guinevere didn't even feature in the early versions of the Arthur saga, she's an invention of French romantic writers in much later drafts. I've also read suggestions that she wasn't a real person at all, just a manifestation of the pagan earth goddess, whom early Celtic kings were symbolically wed to on their coronation. Bearing in mind the mercurial nature of such deities, the unfaithful Guinevere certainly fits that mode.

I understand what you're saying, however, that by choosing that name JKR was marking out Ginny to be the queen in this story, who would ultimately marry her king, Harry (I wonder what she was trying to say with the name Hermione?). You may well be right about pressure placed on JKR not to make the saga too romantic, either from WB or her publishers, but I doubt she ever intended HP too much in that vein - it was essentially a children's book.



Reviewer: riegert8 Signed Date: 2014.06.20 - 05:33PM Title: Chapter 2 – Front Page News

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Reviewer: GREYWOLF Signed Date: 2013.12.19 - 12:37PM Title: Chapter 2 – Front Page News

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Oh Ho, I was right. Tom's personality is influencing Ginny and she has realized it. How long will it take her to realize how manipulative she has become?

So glad that you included Luna in the story, she's one of my favorite characters.

Author's Response: I love Luna, too, and really enjoy writing her. She will be included in the rest of the story and the sequel, too.



Reviewer: carolyn jinn Signed Date: 2013.09.03 - 09:02AM Title: Chapter 2 – Front Page News

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So glad that I managed to read this story.
I quite like the idea you have started with here. I'm not adverse to a bit of Ron bashing. It seems to me that he could have been a better friend during the whole Triwizard tournament fiasco. A soon as it got hard, he ran.
Loving the story and the whole idea of Ginny helping Harry. Luna is a nice way to make it a trio.
Looking forward to more.

Author's Response: Thanks, CJ. I distinctly remember the first time I read the books being very happy when Ron started acting out at this point; it sort of confirmed all my negative thoughts about the character. And lets face it, GoF would have only been enhanced with Luna being in it.



Reviewer: alterdream Signed Date: 2013.09.02 - 02:57PM Title: Chapter 2 – Front Page News

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This just keeps getting better. Harry and Ginny's behavior may be a bit of a stretch but it is so much fun to read.

Author's Response: I'm trying to keep this one fairly light (hence the lower than normal rating) although there will be one rather dark non-canon event. I mean, I can't go through an entire story without killing someone.



Reviewer: aimless Signed Date: 2013.09.01 - 08:06AM Title: Chapter 2 – Front Page News

Ron bashing not my favorite type of story, but other than that it looks interesting, I'll give it a go, your stories always interesting to read )

Author's Response: Can't say I didn't warn you about the Ron thing. The ginger whinger's going down in this one!



Reviewer: skiutahnum1 Signed Date: 2013.08.31 - 04:20PM Title: Chapter 2 – Front Page News

As much as Harry needs hermione and Ron I think your right in having Ginny work her magic alitle and get Harry in to the here and now...nice to see Luna make a splash as well....kutgw

Author's Response: I've never made it a secret that I think Harry needs Hermione much more than he needs Ron. Throw Ginny into the mix and Ron becomes completely unnecessary. Luna and the twins will also be more involved: what more could Harry ask for?



Reviewer: Mistress of Potions Signed Date: 2013.08.31 - 01:46AM Title: Chapter 2 – Front Page News

Marvelous start to what will no doubt be another excellent story. I've always thought Ginny had a bit of a Slytherin side and I'm sure you'll do a bang-up job of showing that. This is the first I've seen the story which is why there was no review from me for the first two chapters.

Author's Response: Damn that sticky 'submit' button!



Reviewer: Mistress of Potions Signed Date: 2013.08.30 - 11:34PM Title: Chapter 2 – Front Page News

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Marvelous start to what will no doubt be another excellent story. I've always thought Ginny had a bit of a Slytherin side and I'm sure you'll do a bang-up job of showing that. This is the first I've seen the story which is why there was no review from me for the first two chapters.

Author's Response: I've always been a sucker for 'Ginny as a Slytherin' stories. Actually my next story might have Harry as a Slytherin; I do have to show loyalty to my house, after all. It was nice that Pottermore put me in the right place! Sadly, Mrs Brennus is a Hufflepuff. Snigger.



Reviewer: ginnyweasley777 Signed Date: 2013.08.30 - 10:30AM Title: Chapter 2 – Front Page News

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lol at the new trio, love Luna in this
Ginny should have got a picture of Harry in those y-front - I'm sure it'd make good blackmail material :) :)
can't wait for the next chapter!

Author's Response: I'm sure they were only pink because Fred or George left a red sock in with the white wash. That said, I bet Harry would look fabulous in pink!



Reviewer: Trucker Signed Date: 2013.08.30 - 02:15AM Title: Chapter 2 – Front Page News

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Very nice, but you've a couple of misspellings or misplaced words, such as Luna having a "serine" smile. Then there's "...that he friend was a genius" at another point.

I love the story!

And I'd love to see Gin come up with a delightfully wicked way to end Malfoy's relationship with C & G.

Author's Response: I think I have some sticky keys on my keyboard. That's my excuse and I'm sticking to it. I will be sticking (again) to canon for most of this story, so a further confrontation with Mr Malfoy may have to wait for 'The Thorny Rose 2'.



Reviewer: HG Forever9696 Signed Date: 2013.08.30 - 01:26AM Title: Chapter 2 – Front Page News

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mmmm these two chapters is shaping into another one of your fantastic stories I think amazing chapter by the way and I love the way Malfoy insulted himself my favorite moment in the story so far

Author's Response: Kind of rolls off the tongue, doesn't it? I always like the idea of Draco outwitting himself (not that's a hard thing to do!)



Reviewer: DebbieO Signed Date: 2013.08.29 - 09:20PM Title: Chapter 2 – Front Page News

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Great beginning. I never liked the fact that Ginny had strong feelings for Harry, but she never tried to reach out to him when he was being ostracized in GoF. This more mature Ginny with Voldemort's memories has the courage to make a very interesting twist to canon. I look forward to more. I am always glad to see your stories pop up.

Author's Response: I guess Ginny was still locked into crush on Harry at this point in canon and was too embarrassed to approach him. It took her starting to go out with Michael Corner to finally shake that. Here I've given her the tools to lose her immaturity and actually try to grab what she wants. Lucky that Harry wants the same things (even if he doesn't know that yet).



Reviewer: Birlan Signed Date: 2013.08.29 - 05:50PM Title: Chapter 2 – Front Page News

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Outstanding beginning. I thought this chapter did some very interesting things with Ginny in how she realizes that she needs Harry to be her moral compass. Not just a meal ticket and the ultimate "trophy boyfriend" but also someone who is going to help her in what is gonig to be a lifelong struggle to not be influenced by the memroies that are not hers. She needs to help Harry because if she doesn't and she loses that friendship, he probably is not replaceable. Yes there are other potential partners but how many would be the brake that she needs.

Thanks again--and its always good to see you posting.


Author's Response: I felt that the relationship would need that balance pretty early on or Ginny's knowledge and cunning would just roll right over poor Harry. I'm also going to throw some other elements into the mix later on, including a rather obvious non-canon event which is going to make Ginny realise more than anything that she needs him as much as he needs her. While Ginny has the knowledge of a Dark Lord, she is still a thirteen year old girl and she will make mistakes.



Reviewer: ProfessorBinns79 Signed Date: 2013.08.29 - 05:35PM Title: Chapter 2 – Front Page News

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Well, I predict that...

Sorry -- couldn't resist -- not that kind of story

As you know, I differ with you on several points of characterization. That being said, I think this story will be quite interesting as a hypothetical (and isn't that what all AU stories are, hypothetical). What would happen if these events played out and these relationships were made at this point in time? While I don't think that one has to get rid of Ron and Hermione to do it, I do like stories where Ginny is closer to Harry at an earlier point (not to mention Luna, Fred, and George are some of my favorite characters as well). While I'm not so anti-Ron as you, he was being a git during 4th year, so this isn't actually too much of a stretch. I just hope you don't turn Harry into a grudge-holding jerk: to not remain best friends is one thing, but a complete unwillingness to forgive is another.

In other words, I am talking myself into setting aside characterization to enjoy your versions of these characters and the plot you lay out for them. I have, after all, thoroughly enjoyed your other stories so far.

As for your Ginny, you are doing a delicate balancing act between the fact that Ginny is keeping things from Harry and manipulating him and the fact that her feelings for him are real and organic. If you over-emphasize the manipulation, she will seem fake. Since the manipulation is the unique aspect of this story, some people will interpret her that way; but I can see in these first two chapter how you have emphasized the genuineness of her feelings. As long as you continue to do this, I think you'll be okay. I do hope that the truth is revealed sooner than it seems Ginny is planning on at present. Once their relationship is established, Ginny should be able to tell Harry about Tom's memories, and they can be truly equal partners (Note the irony that Ginny wants to be Harry's equal from a gender standpoint, but her secrets -- if held too long -- could make him not her equal.). I'm glad she's already realized that he helps her too, by keeping her grounded. I think the idea of Tom's memories and how they effect her is excellent.

I'm very looking forward to seeing where you go with this!

Author's Response: I don't know; he guesses a killer before everyone else and then he just gets cocky! ;-) The Ron thing will be a fine line to walk. If anything, this Harry will be a bit more mature than canon, so on the face of it should be more forgiving. On the other hand he now has Ginny influencing him, and she's convinced her brother is a bad influence on him. Add to this, in canon Ron was only jealous about Harry getting entered into the Tournament (plus his money and fame, I guess) but here he has to deal with Harry replacing him as his best friend with his sister. Worse still, they might well end up being romantically linked. That's really going to punch Ron's buttons. It's often the case that these situations spiral, with accusations leading to arguments leading to bitterness and even violence. Now, I have read similar stories where an enraged Ron has tried to kill Harry. This story won't be anywhere near as extreme as that (I always though that was taking things too far) but don't expect Harry and Ron to be buddies any time soon. Regarding Ginny's desire to be equal with Harry, I've tried to balance her knowledge with Harry's raw power. While she's manipulated Harry into this situation, she is trying to genuinely help him and the two of them do enjoy their time together, as well. I guess will have to be judged at the end of the story as to how well I've balanced things. Thanks for the review; as insightful and interesting as ever.



Reviewer: Dad Signed Date: 2013.08.29 - 05:34PM Title: Chapter 2 – Front Page News

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I do not know why but I missed the first chapter so I made up tonight. Great but, "I’m surprised ta see you over ‘ear," I think you meant " here" - not "hear"?

Author's Response: I was writing Hagrid's speech phonetically. A big West Country lad like him would pronounce 'here' as 'ear', and I should know as I'm a big West Country lad myself!



Reviewer: seekers_destiny Signed Date: 2013.08.29 - 04:39PM Title: Chapter 2 – Front Page News

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I thought you promised a lot of Ron bashing? It's hard to bash someone who barely appears in the story. Don't worry, I added some author bashing at the end. Oops, I mean errata. ;-)

My favorite part was where Ginny realized that she needed Harry too. It wouldn't have worked as one-way relationship anyway. I like that you introduced Luna early. I don't see any issue with it as she was obviously around. She just hadn't been noticed by Harry yet so she didn't appear until later in canon. I loved how they teased Harry but I wouldn't have wanted to be Harry. Luckily, one cannot die of embarrassment even though one might think that was preferable to being embarrassed.

errata:
Draco leaned in to ready what the badge
Draco leaned in to read what the badge

Draco couldn’t resist grinning in triumphant
Draco couldn’t resist grinning in triumph

As far as I’m concerned that’s a result
As far as I’m concerned that’s a good result

since they had manage to get rid
since they had managed to get rid

with her usual serine smile
with her usual serene smile

Author's Response: Gah! Does that mean that if I'd got into the Ron bashing already you wouldn't have bashed me (useful as your corrections are)? Actually, I'm not giving you number three; 'that's a result!' is a common phrase for us Brits. On the subject of Ron, the confrontations will start coming thick and fast shortly (you're so impatient!). Assume he is currently just sulking and working up to having a good tantrum. As for Harry, a bit of embarrassment is a small price to pay for the company of two such lovely witches (although he might disagree).



Reviewer: potterfan2008 Signed Date: 2013.08.29 - 02:54PM Title: Chapter 2 – Front Page News

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I like the fact that Ginny is helping him get in shape - poor guy needs some help. I love the line about punching the French tart - I'd love to see that! Luna is great and a great friend to Harry, although now I'm sure she will be added to the list of Harry's conquests. I'm really surprised Ron hasn't approached his sister yet - I can't imagine Hermione having that much power over him. I know many people have her controlling him from a young age, but he didn't mind arguing with her and making her angry. She does seem like the type who when she's older would withhold sex to get her way, but at 14 I don't think it would be an option.

Author's Response: Don't worry; Ron's just building up a head of steam and the confrontations will soon be coming thick and fast. Miss Granger using sex to get her way? Sharon, I'm shocked at you! I mean, yeah, Hermione would totally do that, but still. ;-) But rest assured, it's not her withholding nookie that's keeping Ron at bay. I think you can assume he's just sulking somewhere prior to the first task. I'm not sure Harry punching his future sister-in-law would be a good idea, but if the Weasleys are anything like my family, it will probably happen.



Reviewer: Aurorofthelight Signed Date: 2013.08.29 - 02:24PM Title: Chapter 2 – Front Page News

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Wonderdul to see a new offering from you, O Great and Learned One!! I decided to wait until the 2nd chapter when I had a better idea of the plot to drop a review! You do have a way with new and interesting angles and this one is a real beaut! I really like your new Ginny......really onery and a take no prisoners attitude.........especially toward gits like Dorko Malfoy! Always thought the character of Ginny didn't get enough play in the movies but that was more the scriptwriter's fault then Jo's. Also like that you brought Luna into the fray as well! I'm liking Harry in this as well. Can't wait for the next chapter O omnipotent One!

Author's Response: Thank you, o worthy disciple. Actually, I don't think Ginny got nearly enough time in the books, let alone the movies. As someone on FF.Net pointed out, she had a unique insight into the mind of Tom Riddle. Surely that would have been helpful in the Horcrux hunt? I like to think of this Ginny as being what she should have been if JKR had fleshed out her character more. Interesting debating point: did JKR intend Ginny to end up as Mrs Potter in the end right from the start, or did she decide later and started working Ginny more into the plot as she went along? Ginny waving goodbye as the Hogwarts Express pulls off in the first book is a strong indicator that it was a possibility from the start, but she's barely in books three and four. What does everyone think?




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