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Comments Ophelia came out of the woodwork on 2007.07.08 - 04:18PM to say: How do you become a beta reader? i would love to be one and i have no idea how! many thanks,Ophelia xxx Marquis Potter came out of the woodwork on 2007.07.08 - 07:32PM to say: Ophelia, i think on perfect imagination you can take a test to become a beta reader. JadeSeraph came out of the woodwork on 2007.07.08 - 09:29PM to say: Just out of curiosity - any other writers out there have a phobia of betas? Because I know I do. I'm not sure why, but I'm deathly afraid of them. 'Tis probably why I don't post writing on PhoenixSong and Checkmated - though I've never had a chapter rejected here. Sovran came out of the woodwork on 2007.07.08 - 10:13PM to say: Jade - the idea is a bit scary at first, or at least it was for me. I think the key there is finding the right beta reader, who's willing to adapt his or her efforts to your desires. Some people just want/need a proofreader and don't like the idea of someone making suggestions about their plot or characters. Others' writing may be good but they are open to checking for plot-holes and characterization issues. Some folks may just want all the help they can get. So if you're a bit nervous about it, then try a beta on a trial basis . . . everyone I've worked with has been happy to start that way. This is, of course, just my 2 knuts. QwayMelqnu came out of the woodwork on 2007.07.08 - 11:56PM to say: Alright, you caught me. I haven't had a Beta Reader since the 5th chapter of Seven-Year War. She bailed on me and I was so eager to get the stuff uploaded that I decided to go solo. - I'm either better at grammar and spelling than I thought I was, or people are keeping quiet for some reason. Because I really don't get that many complaints. Not that I'm against beta reading. I'd love to have another. I just haven't made the effort to seek another one out. - I'll take your advice to heart, though, and reconsider. :P marshallgeek92 came out of the woodwork on 2007.07.09 - 12:37AM to say: Hey, I love beta...ing. Anyone out there that wants help, I'm your girl. Just tell me what you want. If you want plot help, proofreading, suggestions, or anything else, e-mail me =). I'd love to help. I don't have much going on this summer ;). marshallgeek92 came out of the woodwork on 2007.07.09 - 12:39AM to say: Lol. I got all the way onto the homepage and realised that I didn't post my e-mail address! It's marshallgeek@yahoo.com =D griffindorechicky101 came out of the woodwork on 2007.07.09 - 12:59AM to say: to al those who don't like beta readers don't worry my beta reader is great and if you have a beta reader as good as mine then you can form a freindshipwith them it just makes it even more fun liek mine he even gives me advise on everyday life so dont worry!!! Mojomig came out of the woodwork on 2007.07.09 - 03:30AM to say: Hello everyone! I write and edit documents for a living, so I'm pretty good with spelling, grammar and whatnot, but Zenny who betas for me adds soooooo much value to my stories. It's amazing how someone suggesting changing a word here, or adding a comma there can really improve what you have written. Also, I know what I have written, so when I read through, I don't see the mistakes I typed when I was in the creative zone. DQBunny came out of the woodwork on 2007.07.09 - 05:59AM to say: Jade: The idea always scared me at first as well. I've had a few betas through my writing career, some very good and some very bad. The best was one in the Sailormoon fandom who had me rolling on the floor laughing with her marked-up documents. I wish I still had them. She would point out errors and also make very silly comments on the stuff that went both right and wrong and it made her critiques a joy to read. She really did help my writing to get better and influenced my own beta'ing style as well. werekitten came out of the woodwork on 2007.07.09 - 09:55AM to say: Personally, I would die without my beta. Okay, mabey that's over reacting, but he is really important. My spelling and grammer are terrible -- I used to spell sentence as scentance. XD. It also helps that my beta an I know each other from school -- he's the one who introduced me to fan fiction in the first place! He does other stuff as well -- while I was at sleepaway camp (with no computer access), he kept me updated on my new comments, etc. So, thanks, Erik! I definitely reccomend that all authors find a beta! Spenser Hemmingway came out of the woodwork on 2007.07.09 - 08:21PM to say: I am seeing a great deal of interest in the Beta Reader position. With the exception of the writers themselves, there are no greater functions than those of the Betas and the Archivists--yes, they work hand-in-hand. The purpose of the staff is to take care of our contributing members, but it is also to ensure a quality product for our readers. Stacey/Something Flowery and I do have a Beta Examination that we utilize for applicants; it helps indicate simple competence with grammar and composition. Sink Into Your Eyes also wants excellent familiarity with Harry’s world, empathy for what another writer is going through at the keyboard, a working knowledge of our rules and philosophy, and absolutely…time management skills and patience. Being a Beta Reader is not easy, but it is very rewarding. I was walking on air when one young lady won a Challenge with one of her first stories. That’s enough Administrator business—I’m taking my clothes off again (it's hot here). Eric B. kschneyer came out of the woodwork on 2007.07.09 - 10:25PM to say: Hey, I've been cited (or at least paraphrased) on an Admin post! In the paragraph following the bulleted list, the third sentence should read, "We're supposed to catch stories..." The "d" is missing fom the second word. In the following paragraph, the first sentence should read, "Great stories can be, and are, ruined..." The word "b" and the commas are missing. Just reinforcing your point, ~Ken Soccer Devil22 came out of the woodwork on 2007.07.10 - 12:11AM to say: I know this is completely off topic, but who else is siked about HP 5 coming out! I'm going to see the midnight showing! That's right, in about 24 hrs. I'll be watching The Order of the Phoenix! I can't wait! Ok, I'm done. ~Jeff~ Mojomig came out of the woodwork on 2007.07.10 - 03:04AM to say: Saturday 14th 8.30pm. Tickets purchased well in advance. Aaaaaaaarrrrrgggghhhhh! jabanks007 came out of the woodwork on 2007.07.10 - 08:41AM to say: I would also be willing to become a beta reader. As a historian by education, I've written numerous papers (all factually based unfortunately) and have an excellent eye for proof-reading. See my profile here if you are interested in contacting me. _kb_ came out of the woodwork on 2007.07.11 - 10:50AM to say: It's nice to see people volunteering to be betas. I really like the people that have helped me by betaing in the last year, and they've helped me and my stories so much! One thing I'd like to see here on SIYE is more attention being given to betas, and this "story" is a good start. I would actually disagree with the last 2 lines of the story. Finding a beta can be the hardest part of writing. My first suggestion to the staff here would be to go thru the published beta list and make sure all the people there still beta. Last time I needed a beta, I think I emailed half the list and I got back either no answer or was told they no longer beta. That being said, I noticed who was being credited with betaing in other stories and nicely asked a few of those people and found some wonderful betas. broomstickflyer came out of the woodwork on 2007.07.11 - 09:07PM to say: I hate the idea of trying another beta, I dislike it intensely when my story line ends up under someone else's pen name as happened not so long ago on a different site (it was that that actually led me to this site as my prefered fanfic site. If you could guarantee my story is safe from being stolen then I might consider a Beta broomstickflyer came out of the woodwork on 2007.07.11 - 09:08PM to say: I hate the idea of trying another beta, I dislike it intensely when my story line ends up under someone else's pen name as happened not so long ago on a different site (it was that that actually led me to this site as my prefered fanfic site. If you could guarantee my story is safe from being stolen then I might consider a Beta merlinsaprentice came out of the woodwork on 2007.07.11 - 09:19PM to say: I've tried for ages to find a beta but uptil today I have only had one reply and that was to tell me the the beta was way to busy to accept anyone new lecook4 came out of the woodwork on 2007.07.11 - 10:15PM to say: broomstickflyer - I hate to say it, but there are no guarantees in life. Just ask Harry! Also, having a beta doesn't mean your story will automatically get stolen, just as not having a beta doesn't mean your story is safe. There are several authors on this site who can attest to that, having had their stories stolen by someone other than a beta. A beta (even given the risks) is still better than none. And this comes from someone who doesn't have one. I would welcome one even with the risk. Don't let one bad example ruin you. If Harry had lived by that motto, he would never had gone to Hogwarts or gotten past the first book! :-) RSP came out of the woodwork on 2007.07.12 - 12:12AM to say: I'm about to sound like a hypocrite, but everybody -- all right, nearly everybody -- should have a beta. There are very few reasons not to, and it requires a very certain skill set on the author's part in order for him or her to operate effectively without one. Mojomig came out of the woodwork on 2007.07.12 - 07:35AM to say: To all those who are looking for a beta: I've got some time at the moment (about 45 minutes a day) that I could give to beta-ing for one or two of you. I'm not listed on this site but I am registered with Perfect Imagination. Please feel free to PM if you're interested. hot48cricket came out of the woodwork on 2007.07.12 - 11:16PM to say: I think the idea of betas is wonderful. I love reading the stories...but mistakes (spelling and grammar and inconsistencies in the story line) make it hard to read. Writers - take advantange of a beta! I would love to beta for any wirter...how do you get registered?? Torak came out of the woodwork on 2007.07.13 - 07:46AM to say: I don't have a beta. I sometimes pitch my fics around to some of my fellow archivists, but I don't generally have them beta'd as such. But then, I'm rarely assailed by linguistic errors, and mater mea used to proofread newspapers, so between us, not much gets through. GodricsPhoenix came out of the woodwork on 2007.07.13 - 09:52AM to say: I would LOVE to be a beta reader!!!! Spenser Hemmingway came out of the woodwork on 2007.07.14 - 11:35PM to say: Torak--You need a Beta Reader as Perry Mason requires a newly-graduated neo-lawyer to step in for one of his cases. When most of us write, we are often exchanging ideas, advice and perspectives between ourselves. When I began writing I relied upon my fellow authors more than anyone could imagine. I have come a long way since then, and I acknowledge it about my helpers and their capabilities. With that said, everyone regardless of skill-level can use some help at times...even if it is just explaining to a young writer that America does not utilize Euros...just Dollars and Galleons (I do not enclude Las Vegas in this statement). Betas are great and always welcome, but please be ready for the post. Thanks! 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lecook4 came out of the woodwork on 2007.07.08 - 04:08PM to say:
Here... here! There are so many authors on this site that have great stories, they just need a little help with how to get them on paper, or cyper-paper if you will. Nothing can kill a great story faster than unecessary side comments or terrible spelling. Thanks for writing this DQ. Now, anyone want to beta for me? :-) hehe! I probably need more help than a lot of you. LOL!