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Another Case Of Plagiarism
I’m sorry to say we had another case of plagiarism on SIYE. An author stole two stories from another website and tried to pass them off as her own. She even politely answered her reviewers as if the stories were hers. However, avid readers recognized the theft and both called her on it via reviews and notified SIYE Administration. Also, one of the original authors found it. SIYE investigated the situation and found the stories were plagiarized. The suspect author removed them before our results came in which helped confirm our findings. The author will be dealt with.

Please remember, taking someone else’s story as your own without any specific permission is stealing, in other words, plagiarism. SIYE Administration will seriously investigate any case of suspected plagiarism, even if from other websites.

Plagiarism will not be tolerated in any form!

PS: There were three stories. See Comments for links.

PPS: Sorry, more research. All four stories were stolen from Mugglenet.com
Sir Ollivander on 2007.09.24 - 07:41AM ()

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Kezzabear came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.24 - 10:08AM to say:

I'd just like to say thank you for taking it seriously and investigating it promptly and efficiently.



sapphire200182 came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.24 - 12:08PM to say:

Go admins!

By the way, what is the punishment for plagiarisation? Excommunication? 6-month ban?




melindaleo came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.24 - 12:59PM to say:

Good job, SIYE admins! I just don't understand what people get out of doing this. It's bizarre.



Ginny Guerra came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.24 - 01:07PM to say:

I'm so happy you took measures. I was so angry with that, especially because one of those authors is a good friend of mine. Let's hope this doesn't happen again. Good job SIYE admins!



carolquin came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.24 - 01:43PM to say:

if anyone could tell me the names of the stories i would appreciate it. i'd like to go and read them and give the true author credit for them!!



melkior came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.24 - 01:55PM to say:

With the increasing number of fanfictions it's getting hard to have originality and ideas are either borrowed or thought of by more people at the same time. But stealing someones work and presenting it as own is indeed horrible and stupid at the same time. You can easily get caught. Great job admins!



Sir Ollivander came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.24 - 01:57PM to say:

carolquin - check your e-mail. Tom



Jonathan Brenner came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.24 - 03:58PM to say:

I'd like to do the same as carolquin, if possible. And I'm with melindaleo, what is there to gain by plagiarising a HP fanfic, other than attention? And to do it so blatantly at that. -JB



Torak came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.24 - 04:28PM to say:

Sapphire, it appears to be a permanent IP ban; I'm not privy to the exact result in this case, but that's usually the result. Melkior, you're absolutely right; there's bound to be similarity in ideas, simply because a lot of stories are based on little references that many will have picked up on. So unless your story's completely off the wall - like many of mine - it's very likely that someone will write something similar. This plagiarist, on the other hand, was silly enough to copy the stories verbatim, so there really wasn't much doubt in the matter. ;-)



Kezzabear came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.24 - 04:43PM to say:

Just as an aside...is anyone else having trouble getting into MNFF? Is it really just (apparently) me???? I was in the middle of one when it went down on me (which is why I knnew it had been plagiarised) and I can't get back in - can someone PM/email me if they are on another archive as well, please?



sapphire200182 came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.24 - 04:49PM to say:

Torak - Thanks mate! A permanent IP ban, eh? Sounds pretty harsh...sometimes I pity the poor fellas...

Sir Ollivander - Could you PM me and Johnathan the names of the fics, too?




Sir Ollivander came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.24 - 05:46PM to say:

Jonathan and sapphire200182 - check your e-mail. Tom



amblewat came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.24 - 06:13PM to say:

Plagerism is not fair to anyone no one gains anything. Good job SIYE



sinisterDei came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.24 - 07:55PM to say:

Like carolquin, Jonathan, and sapphire200182, I would also like to know which stories were stolen. Actually I have a suggestion: post a link on the main page along with the existing plagiarism topic that links users to the correct author's site / story link / etc. Cause not everyone will look in these comments ;)



Anniepaulie came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.24 - 10:12PM to say:

I'd love to know it too...I've seen it happen several times in other fandoms and it just p... me off, cause, having been a writer before, I know how much effort you ahve to put in a story.It's disrespectful!!



notadryeeye came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.24 - 10:34PM to say:

Kudos to the SIYE staff for taking down another plagerizer. I know how it feels to get your hard work cheated from you and I'm glad that this site has successfully dealt with the culprit once again!



SunDevil05 came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.24 - 10:41PM to say:

I, like some here , have had a story stolen from me, two actually, and I know what it feels like to be the victim. I'm so happy SIYE has taken action to stop the plagiarism and that the punishment for it is so harsh. Why do people feel the need to take someone else's work and claim it as their own? Don't they realize what they are doing to the person who worked so hard on a piece of work?



Sakabatou came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.24 - 10:46PM to say:

Copy cat, how rude they can't think of anything themselves.



lecook4 came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.24 - 10:50PM to say:

Listening to everyone talk about how they've had experience with people stealing their stories, amazes me at how often it must really happen. SO... my problem is, now I don't know whether to be happy or offended that no one has ever stolen one of mine. LOL!



sapphire200182 came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.25 - 12:11AM to say:

Tom - Thank you very much.

lecook4 - When that pirated copy of Melindaleo's 7th Horcrux came out labeled as DH, I remember someone saying it was a backhanded compliment!




Kezzabear came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.25 - 12:19AM to say:

More to the point, I wonder what makes people think they can get away with it tbh. If they are frequenting more than one fanfic site - do they not think that others will also and therefore see it? It is jsut a really silly and disrespectful thing to do - and you will get caught out!



broadsword came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.25 - 02:35AM to say:

It's unbelievable that people think that they can still get away with something like this. I'm just glad that SIYE has enough respect for the authors to take care of it properly, there's a different website where I reported a plagiarism a number of times and I was completely ignored. Also if someone can let me know which stories they were and where the real version can be found so that can acknowledge the author I would really appreciate it.



DarkLady came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.25 - 02:43AM to say:

Oh dear, quite frankly I hate people who do that. I mean seriously if you are going to do that kind of stuff then you shouldn't be allowed to be on these kind of sites in the first place. It disgusts me to see and hear these kinds of things happening. Given that I'm kinda new here and don't know everyone that well... But I commend the admin on taking it seriously investigating it. Would someone please be kind and tell me the authors? Like the one who actually wrote the story so I can read and review and give them the credit?? Anyway, I think it's disgusting and I'm glad people are taking it seriously. Shazmeen



Maraudergrl99 came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.25 - 04:46AM to say:

I don't get how these "authors" think they will get away with stealing other peoples stories. How many times have we seen on here that someone was plagiarizing and got caught? I don't see the point to it. To me it's like stealing from the store, it's not yours so why take it? I couldn't even see getting excited by reviews because you didn't write the story. Can I get the story names to give the real authors some love?



DarkLady came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.25 - 05:43AM to say:

Sorry I forgot to add... I don't pity them, if they get banned. They should realise what they're doing is serious and that there will be harsh consequences...



amblewat came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.25 - 09:09AM to say:

Plagerism hurts everyone. What is the point? Go SIYE staff. I salute the hard work. Not for just investigating plagerism but for maintaing this fabulous site!



sapphire200182 came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.25 - 09:26AM to say:

Sounds like we need a link to the real fics. I've got the names, in case anyone wants they can just drop me a line.

DarkLady, Maraudergrl99I agree its not a very good thing to do, stealing someone's work...but I guess the people who do it are attention-seekers, not writers. Heaven knows there are lots of that type around. I pity them, actually. Wanting attention, not knowing how to obtain it through honest means, and they probably don't know how to write, either.




hms42 came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.25 - 09:54AM to say:

I would be interested in which stories were plagiarism and switching to follow the originals. Its also nice to see the site admins working to keep the site free of stuff like that. Plagiarism does nothing but make the real author NOT write as much and this site (and all other fanfic sites) suffer because of that.



GinnyMarie came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.25 - 11:30AM to say:

How stupid can a person get? Its absolutely idiotic. Like the many people who have already said so, I would like to know which stories were plagiarized, and perhaps, even the author who did it. If at all possible. Thanks.



melkior came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.25 - 11:52AM to say:

I don't really think that SIYE should announce who was the plagiarist. I mean public torture is so 17th century and in the end it would give the plagiarist what he/she was seeking at the first place -- attention.



broomstickflyer came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.25 - 02:00PM to say:

How does the review of someone elses hard work bring pleasure, I personaly can find any reason whatsoever to steal someone's work and time. Could it be jealousy on the part of the thief, but no they would just be giving more exposure to smeone elses work. Anyone knows the reason please let this poor baffled author know



ParadoxalSaint came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.25 - 02:52PM to say:

nice work admins! i too would appreciate the titles of the real fics. drop me a line whenever's convient.



Choronzon came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.25 - 04:49PM to say:

I'm also glad whoever it was was caught. I'm also interested in which fics they were, since they were obviously good enough to be plagiarized.



kauthor came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.25 - 05:29PM to say:

I have to agree with all of them, and title of the real fics please?



Sir Ollivander came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.25 - 05:38PM to say:

Due to numerous concerned readers wanting to know and read the stolen stories, I have provided links to them. There were three stories in all. I have not contacted the original authors to publicly post their stories or names. The suspect author will not be publicly named. This is a link to ”The First Story” This is a link to ”The Second Story” This is a link to ”The Third Story”



Soccer Devil22 came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.25 - 07:48PM to say:

When will the plagarism end? Don't people know that all they'll end up doing is getting caught, having their name mean dragon dung, and get themselves banned. I say (if it is not already in effect which it might very well be) that the Fanfiction Community (including but not limited to) SIYE, Fanfiction.net, Portkey.org, Firewhiskey.org, Ficwad.com, ginnypotter.com, harrypotterfanfiction.com, mugglenet.com, fictionalley.org, sugarquill.net, and pheonixsong.net should ban together, taking drastic measures to eliminate plagarism. How do you go about doing this? First, whenever a plagarised story is discovered, the offender's screenname and email address should be forwarded to all sites and flagged as to not allow them to post stories on other sites. While I know that it would not eliminate plagarism immediately, seeing as it is relatively easy to create a new email address, it would slow things down. Also it would annoy the offenders since they'd have to think up a new name and email everytime they are caught which is a waste of time. This would slowly dindle the number of offenders. Now for any offenders out there who might read this: Grow up. Just because you are too stupid or talentless enough to write your own stories, doesn't mean you should steal others work. Stealing will get you no where in the long run. You'll get caught eventually. They always get caught. Punishments reagarding plagarism are very servere in the really world. A kid in my Digital Media class got expelled last year for going on Youtube and taking another work, trying to pass it off as his own. Futhermore, a guy at my dad's work got fired for harvesting a report off the internet which he stupidly turned into his superior who coincidentally happened to be the one who wrote the report in the first place. So again: Grow up. That's all I got to say. ~Jeff~



lecook4 came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.25 - 08:14PM to say:

Well gee whiz Jeff , don't be so shy... you should learn to speak out and tell it like it is. LOL!



Soccer Devil22 came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.25 - 09:27PM to say:

No offence towards the SIYE Admin. but we need to have stricter rules and more servere conseqeunces. If we had both, then plagarism would be a thing of the past. And no, I'm not shy about expressing my opinuns towards something I'm passinate about. I like to tell it like it is, even if most don't want to hear it. Surely you could agree with me on that, couldn't you? ~Jeff~



Soccer Devil22 came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.25 - 09:33PM to say:

PS- And this isn't only in regards to SIYE. Every site, everywhere needs to step up. No more of this slap-on-the-writst technique where we just delete their story and account only to have them move on to another site using the same screenname and email address they did here. I hope I haven't offended the SIYE Admin. If they feel that my post have been out of line, then by all means delete them and I'll stop posting. ~Jeff~



Kezzabear came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.25 - 09:43PM to say:

What if someone signs up as your username? For example I am not signed up at harrypotterfanfiction someone could theoretically sign up the usernmae I use here and on phoenixsong and checkmated and put my story up - is it treated as seriously then? I mean they are the ones with power to then answer questions and comments or critiques and it is still stolen even if it seems to have the right name. I guess no one would pick it up but the author though as everyone else would assume I had signed up and posted it.

I guess I was just wondering if I was to wander over to HPFF (unlikely, I've been there, I've seen it *shudder*) and find my story there apparently uner my name - would that be investigated as well? Would that depend on the admin of the site in question? (So...if anyone sees my story elsewhere - it's not me! lol I haven't put it up anywhere else.)



Jonathan Brenner came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.25 - 09:55PM to say:

Is there any interaction between site admins from different archives? Something like a "Hey, how's it going? How's the weather? By the way, so and so was caught plagiarising this story on our site, keep your eyes peeled on your sites." This might be aiming a bit high, but it's a thought if plagiarism is a big enough problem. It MIGHT deter some folks if they know that getting caught could mean a ban from more than one site. Like I said, I'm probably aiming high. -JB



Sir Ollivander came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.25 - 10:28PM to say:

Kezzabear - you would be surprised what a good IT tech can find out. If you used my name and copied one of my stories on another site, yes, you would probably be called on it. It would be relatively easy to find out the original owner.

And, no Jonathan, I don't think the various admins communicate much with the other web sites. I don't, nor do I know 99% of them. I can't answer for the other sites, but SIYE doesn't have too much of a problem with plagiarism. It happens once in a blue moon. Maybe two a year.



mordred came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.25 - 10:48PM to say:

There's no way any Admins here can tell another site what to do with someone who plagiarizes. It's simply up to each site and not all have the very best interest of their authors in mind sadly. I'm grateful that SIYE takes it seriously and that's why I am a fan of this site. I think SIYE Admins do the very best possible. And Soccer Devil 22, while I applaud your disgust with such crimes, plagiarism will never be wiped out. It's been with us since the first cave man picked up a piece of charcoal and drew a bison and it still runs rampant in our schools today. SIYE is one of the sites with the fewest instances because people know it's taken seriously here, but it will never go away. I say thanks and BRILLIANT job to the ADMINS of Content and Rules for keeping as much of it off this site as possible.



CodeRomance came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.25 - 11:20PM to say:

well if people weren't stupid and just came up with their own stuff instead of copying others then it would be fine, but alas the world is not perfect and so we cannot have it that way. which sucks!



Spenser Hemmingway came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.26 - 12:52AM to say:

I've followed this matter for a few days now and I haven't really been able to enter into the conversation because of some family conflicts/emergencies that stopped my jumping in. With that said...I now had to look to see what had not been said. The bottom line that I see is “Why do we write?” If it is for accolades then the pretender gets their fifteen minutes, until we notice what they have done. Those of us that spend a week…a month (twenty minutes) on a story that maybe four people read; I believe that we are the better appreciated. I don’t know which gives me greater pause…that people actually read my stories, or how few actually do. I get the biggest thrill when I read them to my best audience…my two children (Nicholas and Loony/Jennifer). I love my work here, and I hope to be brave enough to create my own separate universe some day. I will never arrive there on someone else’s shoulders. Regardless; thanks for the ride so far! Eric B.



Belcris came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.26 - 01:06AM to say:

Bravo, Eric. May we all find the courage to create our own worlds some day but until then, I just want to enjoy what I do. I don't write for anyone other then me and if I'm not happy with what I write then no one else will be either. I can't stop someone from claiming to be me when I post online, hence the reason my original work is not posted anywhere. Oh well... I'll keep writing. Maybe someone will even read it. Chris



Norbert220 came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.26 - 02:48AM to say:

I'd like to throw in my agreement with Chris and Eric. I write for one reason really, and that is for my personal satisfaction. While it may seem self-centered of me, I find that writing is something of a catharsis in an otherwise frantic life. I also find myself amazed when others seem to enjoy my work as well. (Always an added plus for me!) But to see others try to take something that was created by another and us it for their own gain, well it's just repugnant. If other authors are anything like me, every piece of art and expression I create is an intimate piece of who I am and it shakes my very core to have someone take such a flippant additude towards it. Having said all that, I'm thankful to know the SIYE admins are doing their best to protect our humble creations. Kudos to you all!



DarkLady came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.26 - 03:15AM to say:

Thanks for the stories. I agree with Eric B, Belcris and Norbert220... I write because I've loved writing ever since I was a little girl. I like to write because it helps me express everything and anything that I feel, don't feel and would like to feel. But if I found out that someone plagiarised my work, I would be devastated as Norbert220 said everything that an author writes is a part of them and it would be horrible for someone to take that and not care about it. I would like to commend SIYE for taking this seriously and even though I would like to say that I along with probably a lot of other people want to perminantly get rid of these kind of people, sometimes it just can't happen. Anyway, I'm off to read these stories and give the real Author some credit. But before I go... What would happen if someone used my username and posted my stories on another site (taking into consideration that I haven't posted my stories up elsewhere)? What would happen then?



sapphire200182 came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.26 - 04:29AM to say:

Hmmm...maybe we're all overreacting slightly here. I mean, we've all been kids once...heck, many of us are still kids, and somehow having things like permanent IP bans and such on people who made an error of judgement seems pretty harsh to me.

Maybe a compromise? Banned for varying periods of time, but not permanent? We should be a bit more merciful...

The Kid




Milarqui came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.26 - 05:24AM to say:

Well, I believe that people that make plagiarism should be outright banned from writing stories in the webpage. I haven't been plagiarised (fortunately) but I don't wish it to happen to me, because I've worked really hard on my stories and it would be a very bad situation that someone decided to take my fanfictions and say they are theirs.



DarkLady came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.26 - 06:07AM to say:

Hmmm... But if we ban them only for a while, who's to say that they won't do it again. But I do agree that me being a kid and all, if I were banned permanently, I would be upset... But then again I wouldn't be silly enough to do something like that.



sapphire200182 came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.26 - 06:22AM to say:

Plagiarisers should be given a chance to repent. It's not like we've never made mistakes ourselves. In this case, a lifelong ban is like executing a thief...or maybe life imprisonment.



sapphire200182 came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.26 - 06:24AM to say:

All I'm calling for is a little bit more mercy and a little bit more thought in thinking up punishments for people who plagiarise. Something that will give people the chance to repent, something that will not foster negativity and resentment.

Anyone have suggestions?




krpton came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.26 - 06:26AM to say:

good work



Kezzabear came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.26 - 06:51AM to say:

DarkLady - I asked that question and Sir Ollivander asnwered it at 10:28 yesterday :D . You'd be called on it.



oeyp came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.26 - 07:05AM to say:

There is simply no point in showing leniency for plagiarism. What for? The very fact that the author was aware of what he/she was doing just proves that he/she intended to do it, and pass of the hard work of others as their own. If you slap their hand and say don't do it again, do you really think that they won't? It will just drive home the message that this is something that you can get away with if you show enough remorse.
And as to this author, she plagiarised not one, not two, but THREE stories, and I suspect her other story wasn't hers also, as she has deleted it too from her bio page. Clearly, she knew what she was doing and she wasn't sorry about it until she got caught. If no one called her out on it, she most probably would still be claiming these stories as hers. Whether you plagiarise once, twice or how many number of times, it is still WRONG, and thus needs to be sanctioned in the harshest way possible to drive home that very message. Since bringing them to court for theft of intellectual property is impossible, a permanent IP ban is probably the next best thing.



Torak came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.26 - 08:12AM to say:

Sapphire, this isn't a case of a kid lifting a few paragraphs, or posting a single story of someone else's to secure a readership for themselves; this is someone who posted several full stories in the space of a day or so under their own name, responding to reviews in a way designed to continue the charade that they were the genuine author. Leniency is fine, but people like this aren't the repenting kind. I'm with SoccerDevil; the ideal situation for this particular plagiarist (and people like them) would be a lifetime IP ban on all the major fanfic sites.

As for the other conversation, I write because I really enjoy writing. But I post my stories because I really enjoy having them read.



The Seeker came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.26 - 08:37AM to say:

I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned this point before. In the real world, where most of us reside occasionally, what this person did breaks laws. I'm referring to copyright laws, of course, which protect the creative works of people like writers. While not applicable to fanfic writers in a legal sense, the same protections should apply to our stories from a common decency standpoint. This person didn't misunderstand the rules. She stole not one, bur possibly four stories, passed them off as hers, responded to reviews like the original author, and even claimed to have written a story a year ago that was based on a scene in Deathly Hallows -- a remarkable achievement in time travel. A lifetime IP ban is nothing compared to the legal nightmare in which this person would find herself in the real world. Having said that, writing verges on being a need for some of us, so in that sense, we do it for ourselves. But we publish our stories, don't we? So, another factor comes into play. We want people to read them and, hopefully, respond in a positive manner. This person's thefts sever the connection between the writer and the audience. Kudos to the SIYE admins for their quick and decisive actions.



Soccer Devil22 came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.26 - 09:07AM to say:

Mordred- Leave it up to other sites? That's not likely to happen, then. I've seen the kind of work posted on Fanfic and Ficwad. It's not pretty. I've also seen how things operate over there. I got my review priveleges taken away because I accused someone of plagarising. Still haven't gotten it back even though I've sent hundreds of emails to the Fanfic Admin. Kezzabear- I can fully understand and relate to what you mean. There IS a Soccer Devil22 on fanfiction.net who is not me. Even though they have not started posting any stories, I'd hate to think of what they could do. I've actually have been monitoring them to make sure they didn't start posting any of my stories. So while I'm at it... if any of you see a story written by a Soccer Devil22 on Fanfic. it is NOT me! If you see my stories being posted by a Soccer Devil22 on Fanfic... it is NOT me! Report them! That is all. ~Jeff~



lecook4 came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.26 - 12:56PM to say:

Seeker & Spenser - couldn't have said it better myself. Thanks.



ThelostWeasley13 came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.26 - 02:34PM to say:

Man now I really want to know the orignal storys so I can go and check them out. It's just really sad if you not only can't think of something but steal from some one that can. I mean ideas is one thing because you can do it diffrently with your own spin but stealing...... for shame on that author.



Sir Ollivander came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.26 - 03:17PM to say:

For those of you requesting to read these stories, check out the links I installed earlier in these Comments.



sapphire200182 came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.26 - 06:26PM to say:

oeyp - the author posted everything in 1 day. that act screams 'amateur', prob kid. what if she was just a 10yo kid? does she have to pay for that mistake all the rest of her life? She sounds like someone as interested in fanfiction as we all are, and she shouldn't pay the heaviest ever penalty for a dumb immature action. That's like a permanent driving ban on a poor teen who scraped the curb. BTW, you sound like you know who the plagiariser is, who is she actually?

Torak - I don't care whether its a paragraph, a story, or ten. TO me, plagiarisation is plagiarisation. However, I don't support permanent bans. Like I said to oeyp, that's like a permanent driving ban on a poor teen who scraped the curb, or banning a shoplifter from buying goods from everywhere for the rest of his life.

We ought to be more merciful. Get down to the root of the problem with the plagiariser. Unless the plagiariser refuses communication and declines to even talk to us politely, then ban the person by all means. But we should make some attempt at contacting the person, to see whether there is remorse, willingness to repent...we can't treat every case like the offender is a hardened ex-convict.




Ginny Guerra came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.26 - 06:32PM to say:

Hallo, peyp! The stories weren't posted in one day, they were noted in two because of one of them. Three of the stories were here for quite a bit. Well, I', a lawyer, so I think that permanent ban is a very lenient punishment. Had it been only one, that's a mistake, but FOUR? that's heavy abuse of the authors' trust and mockery of all of us readers.



Kezzabear came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.26 - 07:22PM to say:

On a site with admin verification in place they can be banned from posting stories without revoking the right to comment/review etc.. They could simply not have any of their work validated - on a blackban list. that way they can still participate but not be an author. The admin don't have time to check every submission against other archives - although I found the two that I knew I had read had read on MNFF very easily by googling (as I still can't get access to MNFF grrrrrr) But that isn't foolproof as I looked for the other two and didn't get a hit for FF. So it strikes me that an athorship ban for anyone's who plagiarised is a good idea - they can still participate but are limited in their capacity to author a story.



oeyp came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.26 - 08:07PM to say:

Like Ginny Guerra said, the stories were not all posted in one day. The first one was posted several months ago, and then the other within a week or so of DH, then the last two within weeks of each other. I know because I really liked the post DH one, and I remember distinctly the author responding to a reviewer saying "thanks and watch out for my new story - ****," which of course turned out not to be hers after all. And I recall reading that story, thinking it was familiar. A reader said the same thing and - I'm not making it up - the author said that no, her story may be similar, but it wasn't the other (original) one the reviewer was talking about. It was only when another reviewer pasted the link to the original story that she deleted her own "version". So, is this the work of a 10 year old (or whatever age) innocent kid who made a mistake? I don't think so. A lifetime ban is the kindest thing you can do. I'm surprised the admins haven't done it already (I hope I'm wrong).



Imperio came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.26 - 08:38PM to say:

sapphire200182 Ok... I usually stay in the background but OMG, lets be real here people! Anyone who plagiarizes KNOWS its wrong. A child of six or seven knows what copying from someone else’s paper in school means and knows it’s wrong. Good Grief! If they choose to do it, even once, then they deserve what they get. No real writer would ever defend a plagiarist, even a teenager. Teens are certainly old enough to know basic right from wrong. Evidentially, you missed the story a while back of the seventeen year old girl who Published a story and received wonderful accolades for how incredible she wrote for such a young person. Then they found out she stole the story. She didn’t get off easy because she was a teen. She had severe legal action taken against her in a cold court of law. Too bad she was never banned from a fanfiction site first, so she could learn that every action has consequences. What we do here could very well stop someone from making a bigger mistake later on. You think banning is SO severe, and yet I say it’s a simple and yet effective lesson. Plagiarism is not a silly little offence like stealing a candy bar from a Drugstore.

I'm sorry to preach but there is absolutely NO MISTAKE when someone plagiarizes even once. How can there be. You read something someone else wrote, you KNOW it’s not yours, but you copy it anyway and paste it onto another site and sign your own name to it. You KNOW !@%# GOOD AND WELL YOU DIDN'T WRITE IT, so let's get off this pity party of “one could have been an accident.” ANY PLAGIARISM is deliberate and a serious crime. Permanent ban is for everyone’s protection and absolutely justified. It will teach them that theft is wrong and that there are consequences. Life has consequences even in fanfiction. I’m not a writer on this site, just a reader, but I defend the ADMIN’s actions and support them. In the words of the Marauders, I think the plagiarist’s “Mischief” has been “Managed” quite well by the staff.



Sakabatou came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.26 - 09:17PM to say:

I went to read the 'second story. How rude for someone to take their idea!



DarkLady came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.26 - 09:26PM to say:

I agree with Imperio. Everyone knows that it's wrong. Even when you're in the first year of primary school (sorry I'm Aussie) the teachers tell you that it's bad to copy someone's work. When you're in high school there are severe punishments for plagiarizes... The point is that ever since people are little it's been drilled into them that it is wrong and there will be consequences. So whether they were a teenager or not they definitely would have known that what they were doing was wrong. Heck even stealing a chocoalte bar from a shop can have consequences. I agree and I think we should have a permanent ban.



DarkLady came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.26 - 09:40PM to say:

Goodness!! FOUR stories?! Definite permanent ban...



GeorgieGryffindor came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.26 - 09:57PM to say:

Well, my two knuts... I think that the permenant ban is a good idea. Quite simply, authors put a lot of time and effort into writing something that means a great deal to them; something that others can also enjoy. Everyone knows that stealing is wrong, and to take something so personal from people and claim it as your own for personal benefit like the plagiariser did is really rather horrid. That being said, I think there should also be a certain amount of leniency. This person, as stated many times before, obviously has an interest in fanfiction. Plagiarism = big no no, but the fact of the matter here is that it is fanfiction that is being written. We don't write for money, I don't know about other authors, but I write because I enjoy it, because it is fun, it lets me get things out that I want to say, and it bonds people with a common interest from all around the world together. It is an important issue and I'm sure the authors have been rather hurt by someone stealing their work, but... I say that the ban is a good idea, but if the plagiariser comes out with apologies, I think that we shouldn't be too hard on them. They'll now realise what they did is truly shocking, but to make no way of someone wanting to get their story out because of something stupid they have done in the past is a bit far. I think we should wait to see how the plagiariser responds to what has happened before we can really make a judgement on them.



Malika Potter came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.26 - 10:39PM to say:

I'd just like to say thanks to the SIYE administrators who caught the plagiarizer. I am one of the authors (my story, One Last Goodbye, is published on MuggleNet), and I'm glad that this person was banned from SIYE. It's really angering when you find out that someone has been passing off your work as their own, and even more disapointing when you find out that they've been responding to reviews, etc... as if the spent weeks working on the story. I'm glad that this person was banned and I think they deserved what they got. Some people might say that permanent ban is a bit harsh, so I ask you to imagine how you’d feel if someone stole your hard work and passed it of as their own. Would you feel good? I didn’t think so. Thanks again to the SIYE administrators, and to one of my readers who warned me of this problem.



Malika Potter came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.26 - 10:42PM to say:

I'd just like to say thanks to the SIYE administrators who caught the plagiarizer. I am one of the authors (my story, One Last Goodbye, is published on MuggleNet), and I'm glad that this person was banned from SIYE. It's really angering when you find out that someone has been passing off your work as their own, and even more disapointing when you find out that they've been responding to reviews, etc... as if the spent weeks working on the story. I'm glad that this person was banned and I think they deserved what they got. Some people might say that permanent ban is a bit harsh, so I ask you to imagine how you’d feel if someone stole your hard work and passed it of as their own. Would you feel good? I didn’t think so. Thanks again to the SIYE administrators, and to one of my readers who warned me of this problem.



lecook4 came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.26 - 11:26PM to say:

Malika Potter - Just a side note, I read your story while it was under the assumed author's name on this site. I have to say it was very well written. I wish you would post it on this site, if you haven't already. Nice bit of writing.



sapphire200182 came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.27 - 01:14AM to say:

Imperio - Ok, I understand you appear to feel very strongly about this, but I just as strongly resent the 'real writer never defends plagiarist' crack. Just what are you implying?

oeyp, Ginny Guerra (esp), Kezzabear - I agree that in the real world, plagiarisation is severely handled. However, all I'm calling for is a little bit of mercy. I can't help thinking about the poor guy/girl. What if she really is remorseful? Kezzabear's idea is a good one; let her be banned from publishing (in view of her heavy offence, I agree with that) but at least let her leave reviews or send PMs. Who knows? She might even want to apologise but not have the chance to because she's locked out of the site?

Malika Potter - I'm an author, I love my stories, I love writing too. In answer to your question, no, I will not feel good, but I will not call for the total IP ban on the plagiariser. Maybe I'm a merciful guy by nature, but that's how I feel. If the person was really sorry, then I would forgive. I probably wouldn't forget, though.

On a side note, do I sound like a Hare Krishna fanatic?




lecook4 came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.27 - 01:25AM to say:

sapphire200182 - Just FYI since this is about a particular plagiarist that STOLE four stories, you should know that this particular Plagiarist didn't feel remorse and only took each story off as each one was caught and called out on. If I remember right, there has been one case where a person was not banned, but it was after much discussion with both the ADMINS, the REAL author and the person who stole the work. It was indeed a first offense and a young author, but it is very rare that someone would not be banned. This thief, and I call them that very rightly, deserved to be banned. Other stolen stories would still be listed under their name if readers hadn't called them on it and proved they were stolen. They acted knowledgeably and wrongly. They deserve the ban.



Imperio came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.27 - 02:45AM to say:

sapphire200182 - There was no "crack" intended, and if you read more into that phrase, I can't help that. The comment was not singularly focused. It was merely a general statement.



sapphire200182 came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.27 - 03:26AM to say:

Imperio - General statement? "No real writer would ever defend a plagiarist, even a teenager..." Seeing as I'm the only one on this board who seems to be 'defending' a plagiariser, what am I supposed to think?

FYI, I am not specifically defending the plagiariser. I merely call for some thought to be put into this, maybe somewhere along the lines of 'first timers ought to be given a warning and a 3-month ban...' Repeat offenders? Ban them all you like.

leccok4 - You don't need to say 'steal'. The word is 'plagiarise', and usage of words like 'steal' tends to inflame things a bit. "only took each story off as each one was caught and called out on" now that is a good one. In this case, ban them all you like. "If I remember right, there has been one case where a person was not banned, but it was after much discussion with both the ADMINS, the REAL author and the person who stole the work. It was indeed a first offense and a young author..." This is the kind of action I've been talking about; thank you for putting this case on the board.

In summary, I merely call for more open dialogues in such cases, such as the one that lecook4 pointed out above.




Kezzabear came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.27 - 04:19AM to say:

Saphire, given that this is aout the four story stealer then why even bring up otehr measures. if you are for bans for multiple offences then we ahve no question here.

I was sickened when I read the review responses saying 'oh it's similar but not the same' because I knew it was identical. If you want to be lenient then an authorship ban is fine but this was multiple offences ad as plain as day you ackowledge baning repeat offenders is valid.

I appreciate the stance SIYE has taken against this repeat ofender.



oeyp came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.27 - 05:19AM to say:

Well, I am fairly certain that this particular author has little or no remorse for her actions. She's probably sorry for being caught, but if she was truly remorseful of her actions, then she would have immediately pulled all her supposed stories out of the site as soon as the first one was discovered, and more importantly, as soon as this post was put up. As it is, the last story was only removed from the site several days after this thread started. Now, it's almost impossible that said author has not read this announcement, and she has had enough opportunities to defend herself or issue an apology to the public or to the admis, as she still has not been banned from this site, the last time I checked - which was about two minutes ago. I'm assuming then, that the admins are still waiting for a reply from her before deciding on her fate.

As to
lecook4's
use of the word STEAL as a synonym for plagiarism, she is entirely correct. Roget's New Millenium Thesaurus, First Edition, lists several synonyms for plagiarism including: appropriation, borrowing, COUNTERFEITING, cribbing, FALSIFICATION, FRAUD, LITERARY THEFT, PIRACY,STEALING, THEFT. So please call a spade a spade, and acknowledge it for what it truly is - plagiarism is stealing other people's works to pass them off as their own, period



Torak came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.27 - 06:10AM to say:

Can we use the right word for perpetrators of plagiarism? It's plagiarist, not plagiariser or whatever. Other than that... Sapphire, your faith in remorse is reassuring, but I have to agree with those who say that there is none in this case. The "writer" - and I use the term, of course, quite wrongly - stole a number of stories. If they had any remorse they would have pulled all the plagiarised stories when they realised that it was in fact theft. This they refused to do, instead continuing the pretence on those stories until they, too, were spotted. This was... well, I won't say "calculated", but this was fully premeditated. There has been no remorse, no sign of comprehension, just a rout for the hills. That's not the actions of someone who just didn't realise that they were doing something wrong.



Malika Potter came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.27 - 07:15AM to say:

I was just wondering I was allowed to post my fanfiction on SIYE, because it's already on MuggleNet. Because if I am, I would waste no time in submitting it.



Kezzabear came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.27 - 07:19AM to say:

Many authors do. Post it - I can't get into MNFF for some bizarre reason that no one can explain...



DarkLady came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.27 - 07:45AM to say:

It's ok, I can't seem to get into MNFF either.. I would love to read your stories too. I agree with Torak, if this person hadn't known that they did somthing wrong and then they were called on it, then they would have apologised and offered remorse. But no such thing has happened... As to sapphire200182: Hare Krishna fanatic? please do explain...



Sir Ollivander came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.27 - 08:00AM to say:

Ladies and Gentlemen - I really didn’t think my news article would generate so much Comments. Obviously, plagiarism is a very concerning subject. The plagiarist in question carried out her actions over a month’s time, adding chapters as she went along. We have the logs and dates. This wasn’t a one-time act. Banning a person from SIYE is one of the methods we found that works to help prevent this problem.

When I was a lot younger, I used to play at Bobby’s house. His mother had a rule about no ball playing in the house. But I threw a Nerf ball and broke a figurine. Bobby was still my mate, and we played for years. But I was not allowed to play inside his house.

There are hundreds of web sites in cyberspace that caters to Harry Potter fans. Our plagiarist has complete access to the Internet and every site she can find. She can write, post stories, copy, move, paste, color, paint and whatever else she wants to do. She can read all the stories SIYE has to offer. She just can’t play inside SIYE’s house. I think that’s fair.



DarkLady came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.27 - 08:05AM to say:

Very well said. Personally I think that it's fair too.



The Seeker came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.27 - 08:50AM to say:

Sir Ollivander -- That's it! We must be able to accept the consequences of our actions. The response from the SIYE administrators is appropriate. Again, my compliments to you and the other admins for the way you've handled this unfortunate situation.



sapphire200182 came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.27 - 08:54AM to say:

Kezzabear, Torak - Yeah. I guess in this case the so-called 'author' really does deserve it. Well, I wish more cases would turn out like lecook's (in which the plagiarist repented, was given a 2nd chance and in the end all was well), but it's an imperfect world we live in.

oeyp - I agree with your definition (I also got down Roget's Thesaurus to look it up) but when used in such a manner (i.e. with caps) it appears to be inflammatory. But I guess that's a moot point, pal, seeing as I was trying to defend a person whom I thought deserved pity but who eventually turned out to be a plagiarist who even disgusts me.

DarkLady - I said that because it appeared that I was the only one espousing the virtues of 'mercy', 'repentance', 'forgiveness', but I guess that's a moot point seeing as the plagiarist is such a - pardonnez moi - b***h.

By the way, comments posted on the board up there (quote: "...this is someone who posted several full stories in the space of a day or so...") led me to believe that the plagiarist had posted all the fics on 1 day, thereby leading me to believe that the problem was not as severe as if the plagiarist had carried out a well-thought-out campaign of lies spanning months.

However, as Torak says, the plagiarist posted the fics over a period of months, and even when her bluff was called on at least one fic she simply took down that fic and left the others up on-site. Torak's information convinced me that the plagiarist is in fact a class-A example of a pedigree female dog.

Sir Ollivanders - Thank you for sharing that story with us, and thanks for doing such a great job weeding out plagiarists. It's been at least 3-4 of these guys the Admins have caught since I joined up, and for that I'm grateful, not to mention extremely impressed.

All the same, I can't help but feel sorry for the plagiarists.

Sincerely, The Kid.




Imperio came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.27 - 10:27AM to say:

Sir Ollivander I think you are a fair and wise Admin, but the example you gave is just a teeny bit off. To use your example, it would be more like the plagiarist purposefully aimed the ball at the figurine, smashing it into pieces and only after being caught, apologized for it. An apology, by the way, which should never be construed as remorseful. It’s only offered out of self-preservation, nothing more. But your example of everything has consequences was brilliant.

sapphire - Please believe I am not picking on you, it’s just that I’ve seen a lot these cases and I know what happens to many young people who go down this road of thinking its ok to fake their way through life. When I used the word STEAL in caps, I meant every cap. Never, under ANY circumstance can someone plagiarize or copy someone else’s work by mistake. Sorry, that just can’t happen. As stated before by others in the above threads, I knew in first grade what it meant to copy from someone else. But to paste it up, sign your own name to it and respond to reviews? I don’t care how old or how many times. First time or twentieth time, it’s never a matter of ‘didn’t know better.’ We ALL know better from early on. There is no ‘oops I hit the copy button’ and ‘oops again, I hit the paste button on a totally different website’ and ‘oops I just signed my name to it.’ Please, let’s all drop the ‘mistake’ or ‘didn’t know it was wrong’ idea and get it straight. You absolutely, 100% cannot do something like this without full knowledge and intent to steal someone else’s work and put your own name to it. I’m not saying don’t feel pity for them. I have lots of pity for people who are currently in jail, or suffering from bad life choices, because they could have had so much more, but the difference is, somewhere they made a conscious choice to be where they are today. I am sorry for this “non-author,” because anyone who thinks it’s ok to take something that belongs to someone else doesn’t have very bright prospects. Yes, they do deserve our pity, but not our leniency. They must learn there are consequences if they have any hope for a good life in the future.



sapphire200182 came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.27 - 02:37PM to say:

Imperio - I don't think you're picking on me, buddy, I just let you know about an unfortunate choice of words up there. I had had a pretty bad day when I read that (school probs) and I might have overreacted.

As to the plagiarist...I didn't mean the plagiarist copied the stuff by accident. I only meant what I said in the case of a person who did plagiarise in full knowledge but was perhaps a kid who did not know the enormity of such an action being done in cyberspace, where it's more-or-less the real world.

Yes, the person should have known since grade one, yes, but some kids think the Internet is a playground...never knowing that what they post is known as 'public domain' and that real-world laws apply.

You've seen articles in the news about 17yo's and 18yo's who didn't understand the enormity of insulting someone over the internet, only to find themselves clapped in irons because such insults were made in the 'public domain.'

So all I called for was proper investigation taking into account the age and maturity of a plagiariast, as well as his or her understanding that the Internet is a very real world with very real laws.

I also called for leniency in a case where the plagiarist is remorseful, does not fully comprehend the enormity of Internet plagiarisation and is of a young age.

But Tom has assured me that the investigation was thorough and comprehensive, right Tom? So all that's a moot point, I'm just trying to explain myself here.




Imperio came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.27 - 03:24PM to say:

You state your case very well here Sapphire 200182. I admit I did misunderstand a lot of what you were saying. I thought you were arguing for a slap on the wrist for first timers. I just wanted everyone to understand that first or last, it's just as bad and deserves more than a slap on the wrist. Now I understand more of what you meant. You're quite eloquent when you want to be. :-)



Ginny Marie came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.27 - 03:39PM to say:

Plagiarism is just plain wrong. If you want to write something then write it on your own with your imagenation. Otherwise you won't have the satifaction you would have had.



James Evans came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.27 - 03:43PM to say:

could anyone tell me the names of the riginal fics please?



HarryGinnyMustLiveOn came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.27 - 04:26PM to say:

James, I believe that Sir Ollivander posted the links to the stories up higher in the comments. To the admins, Great Job! I'm glad this person was caught.



DarkLady came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.27 - 09:27PM to say:

Well I agree that plagiarism is just wrong, not to mention upsetting. As to my earlier question a while ago... Say if someone DID sign up on another fanfiction website and used my user name and posted my stories, would I be notified?? Considering that I've only posted on one site?? All I have to say is that if the people want to write but don't know how to get ideas or maybe don't feel comfortable writing then there always is help available... There is no need to take other people's stories and pass them off as your own. Does anyone know if the plagiarist apologised??



sapphire200182 came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.27 - 10:02PM to say:

Imperio - Why, thank you.

Ginny Marie - Budding plagiarists are generally people who want the accolades, but they don't know how to get it. Perhaps they don't know how to write. In any case, the person despairs of gaining satisfaction through honest means and thus plagiarises someone's work, and takes pleasure in the reviews that are posted. It's rather a hollow pleasure, however, unless the plagiarist deludes herself/himself to the point where the plagiarist thinks s/he really DID write the work. That's when the s/he really needs to see a pshrink.

DarkLady - Probably not. No-one knows you've only posted on one site. I'd recommend a Google Search, if you're worried, with the titles of your stories in "inverted commas". Then just see if any results are on a site that you have not posted on.




DarkLady came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.27 - 10:23PM to say:

Thanks... I have posted on more than one site, but I was curious... But I do have records of what site I have posted on wnas what I haven't posted on. Thanks once again...



GeorgieGryffindor came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.27 - 10:45PM to say:

Dark Lady, you'll also find that with the world of fanfiction being as widespread as it is these days, if there is a copy (as we've seen through this case) someone is likely to pick it up as well.



Kezzabear came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.27 - 11:31PM to say:

You know I had to go and google that don't you...lol I'm terrible, tell me to google something and I will.

Dark Lady - Sir Ollivander said that a person posting your story on aother site under your name would be able to be found out with a good IT guy. I guess the thing is that if under your username people who know the story would assume you posted it. I have the same handle in most places but there are always a places I don't go and b) places I can't sign up as my handle - unusual for this handle in the HP world but sycophant hex already has a Kezzabear...unless it is me and I forgot my login details and used some vague email address I now can't remember...ROFLOL So really no one is going to notify you if they think it is you who wrote it. I guess on some levels, because only you know where you are posted it would have to be up to the author to do the google exercise every now and then. That said I have accounts at the more well known HP fan fic sites so it'd be hard for someone to do to mine unless they did it on FFnet or HPFF. Signing up at them all with your username could eliminate it to a large extent. then if someone steals it, you'll know.



DarkLady came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.28 - 01:01AM to say:

Awww gee thanks guys... I wasn't too sure... I agree with Kezzabear though because I'm signed up with the more well known sites... And don't worry you're not the only one that probably forgot your sign in details because it's happened to me... I think if you really wanted to figure out if someon'es been stealing your stories then I guess it would be easier to just post on one site... But for me that won't be enough... *giggles* But anyway, thanks so much.



The Fallen Hero came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.29 - 02:04PM to say:

I can understand that it's hard to think of original ideas, but stealing someone else's story is just wrong. Can someone please tell me what the stories were so i can read them... please



Malika Potter came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.29 - 02:42PM to say:

Fallen Hero- There are links to the stories up further in the comments. However, if you want to read "The Second Story", which I wrote, it is also posted on SIYE now.



Sir Ollivander came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.29 - 03:07PM to say:

Mystical Magical Me - your Comment was deleted for language. Comments are not rated and public where anybody can read them. Please be careful next time.



TrainzStoffe came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.29 - 06:44PM to say:

*insert inappropriate statement including various curses and swear words here* I feel so cheated - I've read at least two of those stories, liked them, probably added them to my favorites and maybe even left a review... I can't even imagine what the real authors must feel like! I really don't have anything constructive to add here, except this: Give credit where credit is due - if you borrow (and know it), say so. If it turns out you borrowed without knowing it - correct yourself afterwards and tell it like it is. But do not, never, ever, copy someone else's work! Small bits (with permission, of course) for spinoffs, sure, if the original author agrees. But to say that you did it yourself... that's just wrong on so many levels!



faded memories came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.30 - 07:29PM to say:

like so many others, i wish to have the names of the stories. sorry if im imposing on anyone



Sir Ollivander came out of the woodwork on 2007.09.30 - 07:34PM to say:

faded memories - links are listed in an earlier Comment.



Buttercup came out of the woodwork on 2007.10.02 - 12:44PM to say:

What was the fourth story? There are links to the first three, but I can't find the fourth. Was a link put up?



Wolfie259 came out of the woodwork on 2007.10.04 - 07:34PM to say:

Go nuwnuw! Nuwanda has many awesome and very original stories, and I was shocked and appalled when one of my favorite authors' stories was plagerised. I thought I saw one or two stories that looked familiar. GO ADMIN SWAT TEAM! WOOT! Yours truly, Miss Wolfsbane



Wolfie259 came out of the woodwork on 2007.10.04 - 08:08PM to say:

Nuwnuw's also a friend. I highly recommend his stories. I read one and was hooked. Sapphire, your faith in the human race is admirable, but though I do not support chopping off the hands of plagiarists, I am opposed to mollycoddling them. And people, no need to be so harsh on Sapphire. Sapphire was only expressing his/her opinion. NUWANDA'S ARMY FOREVER!!! Insanely, Miss Wolfsbane



Ellery came out of the woodwork on 2007.10.09 - 09:56PM to say:

Nuwnuw's also a friend. I highly recommend his stories. I read one and was hooked. Sapphire, your faith in the human race is admirable, but though I do not support chopping off the hands of plagiarists, I am opposed to mollycoddling them. And people, no need to be so harsh on Sapphire. Sapphire was only expressing his/her opinion. NUWANDA'S ARMY FOREVER!!! Insanely, Miss Wolfsbane



Ellery came out of the woodwork on 2007.10.09 - 10:00PM to say:

Couldn't resist! But I hate to think that any of my work could be userped by talentless slobs



blackdragon987 came out of the woodwork on 2008.02.13 - 07:42AM to say:

Well, this issue has been heavily debated... My opinion is that we should ban the plagiarist, so that they can read stories, but they can't post any... Of course, since it's their site, it's all up to the SIYE admins. :)


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